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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 15:14:52 GMT -5
Well Sam did say Brandon survived North Of The Wall for years. When it was only a season. Ive never really cared about the same thing, its never been stated what timeframe each episode is.
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Post by AgentFox5 on Aug 15, 2017 19:10:02 GMT -5
Well Sam did say Brandon survived North Of The Wall for years. When it was only a season. Ive never really cared about the same thing, its never been stated what timeframe each episode is. I may be wrong about this, but I'm fairly certain that Bran was beyond the wall for more than a single season.
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Post by AgentFox5 on Aug 15, 2017 19:13:33 GMT -5
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Post by ravenmaniac on Aug 16, 2017 12:31:35 GMT -5
Is anyone else not at all bothered by how fast characters are able to travel from place to place this season? I've read other places where people say the show is jumping the shark by having Euron's fleet leave King's Landing and then attack Yara's fleet later in the same episode. And then in last week's episode, Davos went from Dragonstone to King's Landing, back to Dragonstone, and then all the way to Eastwatch in the span of a 60 minute episode. I can't be the only person who doesn't care about stuff like this. This show is sprinting towards the end (just 8 episodes left in the entire series), so storytelling shortcuts are to be expected. Besides, I've never assumed all the events we see in one episode are necessarily happening simultaneously. Davos's storyline last week could've spanned weeks, and Jaime's only days. This isn't 24, things don't happen in real-time on this show. Maybe I'm just not as familiar with the geography of Westeros as some people, but when I see a character leave one location and show up in another I don't stop to figure out how long the trip would've taken. Did you miss the transporter episode? Each castle has a transporter.
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Post by S. Griffin on Aug 16, 2017 14:33:59 GMT -5
It's been bugging me a bit, because you get used to a certain pace, and then the show needs to accelerate. I get the feeling that while we were experiencing certain things in close (somewhat) to real time before, they are now skipping over chunks of time, namely trips, that they just can't afford to waste time on. It is a bit jarring, but necessary. The other thing to consider is that now that everyone is in Westeros, they're much closer to one another. Dragonstone lies at the mouth of Blackwater Bay while Kings Landing is further down on it's shore. Fans much nerdier than we have determined that there's only a couple of hundred miles in between. It would not take very long at all for two fleets leaving from these points to meet, or for a Dragon (I guess) to fly from one place to the other. The Wall is only about 1000 miles or so up the coast from Dragonstone, so it would really only take John and Davos a few days to sail up there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:59:02 GMT -5
Well Sam did say Brandon survived North Of The Wall for years. When it was only a season. Ive never really cared about the same thing, its never been stated what timeframe each episode is. I may be wrong about this, but I'm fairly certain that Bran was beyond the wall for more than a single season. You would be correct, seasons 3-6 all blend together since I binged them. Have gotten a few things turned around season wise
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Post by okcomputer on Aug 17, 2017 8:16:32 GMT -5
There was a whole season where we didn't see Bran at all. I think it was season 5, and he was North of the Wall with Hodor and the gang. That one season could've spanned more than a year, and since Bran didn't get South until this season, then yeah, Sam is right and Bran was probably up there for several years looking for Max Von Sydow.
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Post by AgentFox5 on Aug 19, 2017 0:02:53 GMT -5
There was a whole season where we didn't see Bran at all. I think it was season 5, and he was North of the Wall with Hodor and the gang. That one season could've spanned more than a year, and since Bran didn't get South until this season, then yeah, Sam is right and Bran was probably up there for several years looking for Max Von Sydow. As much as I like Max Von Sydow, I thought the guy that originally played the 3 Eyed Raven looked cooler.
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Post by okcomputer on Aug 20, 2017 21:18:21 GMT -5
That was... exhausting. Incredible, but exhausting.
And that one thing is probably gonna be really, really bad news.
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Post by okcomputer on Aug 21, 2017 9:11:09 GMT -5
SPOILERS!!!!!!!
That episode might as well have been called "Stupid Morons Act Like Stupid Morons". The plan to kidnap a wight was incredibly dumb from the start, both from a strategic perspective on the part of the characters (seriously guys, write up a list of Pros and Cons next time), and from a storytelling standpoint on the part of the writers who needed to include another big showdown between Jon and the Night King this season. And as soon as Dany took off from Dragonstone with all three of her dragons, I knew one of them wasn't coming back. So yeah, Dany lost one dragon and the Night King gained a FUCKING DRAGON ZOMBIE. But at least Jon and his Gang of Idiots got their kidnapped wight to drag south. So now their entire plan hinges on whether batshit crazy Queen Cersei is convinced by what she sees, if her pregnancy gives her a new sense of perspective.
Oh, and I fully expect the season finale to end with Zombie Dragon breathing blue fire and bringing down the entire Wall. Cut to black, then we wait until late 2018 for the grand finale.
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Post by AgentFox5 on Aug 21, 2017 13:39:41 GMT -5
I agree that the plan was dumb. And I also agree that this season will probably end that way.
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Post by okcomputer on Aug 21, 2017 13:59:51 GMT -5
The plan was very dumb, but it's main purpose was to lead to exactly what happened in the episode. They needed a reason for a group of major characters to go beyond the Wall, where they would obviously run into the Night King's army, yada yada yada, now the Night King has a dragon zombie of his own. It was a matter of creating a bonkers-stupid reason for the story to get to a specific place. On a show less great than this one, that kind of writing pisses me off. But on Game of Thrones even stupid plotting can result in some spectacular scenes, so it's all good.
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Post by S. Griffin on Aug 21, 2017 16:45:43 GMT -5
SPOILERS!!!!!!!
Oh, and I fully expect the season finale to end with Zombie Dragon breathing blue fire and bringing down the entire Wall. Cut to black, then we wait until late 2018 for the grand finale. The dead have no breath, so the ice dragon should have no fire. That said, it should totally be able to fly the Night King and the Others over the wall, which would still be incredibly bad for the people of Westeros.
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Post by okcomputer on Aug 21, 2017 19:00:55 GMT -5
Yeah, dead things can't breathe, but the wights on this show (and every zombie in every movie or TV show ever) can make sounds and scream and grunt and stuff. If an undead human or bear can make noises, then an undead dragon can breathe fire.
It's one of those things in fantasy fiction that might not make sense logically, but that's why it's fantasy.
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 22, 2019 10:18:01 GMT -5
2 episodes into the last 6, and so far so good. I'm gonna be a total emotional wreck by the end of next week though. "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" was as close to a feel-good episode as this show gets, which means horrible things are about to happen.
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 29, 2019 8:25:15 GMT -5
SPOILERS!!!!!
The Battle of Winterfell was huge, epic, scary, and also just a little bit disappointing. Aside from Arya killing the Night King, not a whole lot actually happened. Rhaegal and Drogon are both still alive, most of the characters I thought would die survived, and Jon didn't really do shit. They honestly could have edited that battle down to half the length of a normal episode and still left room for some King's Landing scenes.
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Post by BeefEaster on Apr 29, 2019 9:12:23 GMT -5
that was...kinda anticlimactic to be honest
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 29, 2019 10:06:17 GMT -5
It was maybe a little anticlimactic as an end to the White Walkers storyline, but that was never the main story of the series. It was a huge part of it, but the main plot has always been the political machinations in King's Landing and the various claims to the throne. That's the title of the damn show ferfucksake.
And the next person to say "it was too dark, I couldn't see anything, was the director blind" is gonna get smacked. It was fine. Get a better TV or shut up.
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Post by BeefEaster on Apr 29, 2019 10:18:00 GMT -5
to be fair the streaming quality was pretty bad last night while everyone was trying to watch it
lots of pixelation and color banding in the really dark scenes and it made things kinda hard to see
I watched the first 20 minutes or so again on amazon this morning and the picture quality was a lot better
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 29, 2019 11:05:58 GMT -5
Streaming worked fine at my house. The picture was nice and crisp throughout, barely different at all from broadcast HD quality.
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Post by okcomputer on May 13, 2019 8:26:02 GMT -5
Daenerys, seasons 1-7: "I will take what is mine with fire and blood"
Fans of the show, but only on a surface-level: YASSS QUEEN!!!!!!
Daenerys, season 8: *does that*
Fans: THIS IS CHARACTER ASSASSINATION
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Post by S. Griffin on May 13, 2019 14:03:26 GMT -5
Daenerys, seasons 1-7: "I will take what is mine with fire and blood" Fans of the show, but only on a surface-level: YASSS QUEEN!!!!!! Daenerys, season 8: *does that* Fans: THIS IS CHARACTER ASSASSINATION Right? Fuck. I am also a fan, but I am also not a goddamn idiot who doesn't pay attention to things.
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Post by okcomputer on May 14, 2019 8:27:30 GMT -5
There have been some boneheaded storytelling choices made in these last 2 seasons, but Dany becoming the Mad Queen isn't one of them.
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Post by AgentFox5 on May 14, 2019 8:37:41 GMT -5
There have been some boneheaded storytelling choices made in these last 2 seasons, but Dany becoming the Mad Queen isn't one of them. Exactly. How are people acting like her go to this entire series hasn’t been burning shit to the ground?
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Post by okcomputer on May 14, 2019 9:39:39 GMT -5
Talk about how seasons 7 & 8 should have been 10 episodes each (pretty sure HBO would've paid) and how everything has felt rushed as a result. Talk about how the excellent character arcs for Jaime and Brienne were pretty much tossed aside at the very end (Brienne as a sobbing mess bothered me more than anything else this season). Talk about the anti-climactic end to the White Walker storyline. About how Jon Snow is a complete moron, and how Euron Greyjoy is the most pointless character of all time. Those are all legitimate issues, but the plot development that has people the most worked up is the one thing that this season has earned more than anything else, since it's the thing the entire show has been leading up to.
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Post by S. Griffin on May 14, 2019 13:33:36 GMT -5
HBO asked for ten episodes. Benioff and Weiss said "We can do it in six. We'll just makes some episodes a little longer the last season."
And seriously, how the fuck would Jon make a good king if he's so goddamned stupid? Can the people around him not fucking see that? Sure, he's an honorable and brave man, but shouldn't it take more than that? Put Sansa on the Iron Throne. I kind of hate Sansa, but she's honorable, brave, and shrewd as fuck.
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Post by ravenmaniac on May 14, 2019 13:47:40 GMT -5
King Tyrion and Queen Sansa
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Post by BeefEaster on May 20, 2019 8:23:03 GMT -5
Well...
I guess that's how to fuck up 8 years of amazing story telling in one season...
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Post by okcomputer on May 20, 2019 8:23:17 GMT -5
King Tyrion and Queen Sansa Well, you're half right, sort of... I thought the finale was really good. Not as good at it could've been if this whole season weren't so pointlessly rushed, but still good. The whole scene in the throne room with Dany & Jon was fantastic, and then when Drogon showed up... wow. I liked it. People are gonna be whining about it for years, but I liked it.
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Post by ravenmaniac on May 20, 2019 8:50:44 GMT -5
King Tyrion and Queen Sansa Well, you're half right, sort of... I thought the finale was really good. Not as good at it could've been if this whole season weren't so pointlessly rushed, but still good. The whole scene in the throne room with Dany & Jon was fantastic, and then when Drogon showed up... wow. I liked it. People are gonna be whining about it for years, but I liked it. I was definitely satisfied with the ending. I like Bran as King, he knows what all of the previous rulers did right and wrong, and can hopefully avoid those. He also seems to be pretty neutral as far as allegiances. Just don't ask him to make any long speeches.
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