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Post by NOTtehFACE on Apr 17, 2010 10:46:45 GMT -5
I too noticed the use of John Murphy's 28 days later score. It was still awesome.
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Post by latonthesnake on Apr 17, 2010 12:09:09 GMT -5
It's a great piece, one of the most memorable in recent years. It's just been in a lot of films, and not just in the film but usually presented at a pinnacle emotional moment (so it sticks out).
I'm just wondering if the artist made the song open to use, or if he's running around selling it right and left because the first movie didn't have an ironclad contract.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 13:52:34 GMT -5
John Murphy did some of the Kick-Ass score.....so....
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Post by tenbrouck on Apr 17, 2010 14:04:08 GMT -5
"Kick-Ass"- 7.9/10 I want to preface by saying I really, really wanted this movie to blow me away. With that said, "Kick-Ass" IS a solid movie. There are many things to like... - the soundtrack is awesome -Nic Cage, "Hit Girl" (too lazy to look up the actresses' name), McLovin, and Frank D'Amico turn in above average performances -the English teacher looks great -comic panels (to describe the location or time) is a nice touch Then there are the "questionable" moments in the film. One being, the blatant homophobia (and not just in this movie) that plagues or society. Why is there a 12 year old girl yelling out "Gay" in a context that is neither about a happy emotion or describing one's sexuality? It's just disappointing. Then, to make matters worse, we have a high school student who always has wanted a "gay" friend. What? Your goal in life is to have a gay friend? Is this why our youth is wayward and confused? That we're basing our friendships on one's sexual identity? Some further lowpoints... The character, "Kick-Ass" is highly unlikeable. I kept waiting for some shred of likability but it never came. Of course, he gets the babe at the end. Why wouldn't he? The girlfriend first went for a heroin junkie and now decides to settle on Dave aka "Kick-Ass" who JUST told her he wasn't gay. The romance was poorly constructed. Maybe, I'm just getting old. Or maybe I'm more suited for movies like "How to Train Your Dragon 3D". I've heard that "Kick-Ass" is ultra-violent (Really?). In the end, "Kick-Ass" reminded me of "300", a widely hyped comic adaptation that fell short of the mark.
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Post by latonthesnake on Apr 17, 2010 14:27:44 GMT -5
John Murphy did some of the Kick-Ass score.....so.... Your point? most composers write "new" music for a new film, he was credited with three or four other composers, so this really wasn't his score, and I get the feeling the only reason they gave him credit was so they could rummage around in his greatest hits collection.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 14:45:03 GMT -5
Why is a child saying gay? Well...because thats what kids say. It's a slang word, and it will be for a while. If something sucks, it's gay. "That's gay!" = That sucks, or that's stupid. "You're a faggot" = you're an asshole, or douche. And the girl wanted a gay friend probably because she was sick of having guys try to hurt her, and or just like her only for sex. She meets a gay dude, and she can have a good male friend, who wont have to have sex with her. How was Kick-Ass unlikable? I thought he was a great character. Typical high school kid, thinking he can do something he cant. But eventually ends up becoming a hero. She liked David, because David wasnt some prick, he was a nice kid, who actually liked her. That's why she liked him. There was a connection, not just sexy time. You're probably getting old. And to the above...tell that to Hans Zimmer.
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Post by latonthesnake on Apr 17, 2010 14:52:46 GMT -5
Why is a child saying gay? Well...because thats what kids say. It's a slang word, and it will be for a while. If something sucks, it's gay. "That's gay!" = That sucks, or that's stupid. "You're a f-ggot" = you're an a--hole, or douche. And the girl wanted a gay friend probably because she was sick of having guys try to hurt her, and or just like her only for sex. She meets a gay dude, and she can have a good male friend, who wont have to have sex with her. How was Kick-Ass unlikable? I thought he was a great character. Typical high school kid, thinking he can do something he cant. But eventually ends up becoming a hero. She liked David, because David wasnt some prick, he was a nice kid, who actually liked her. That's why she liked him. There was a connection, not just sexy time. You're probably getting old. And to the above...tell that to Hans Zimmer. Oh yeah, that one's always irked me to, I think the instrumental score is one of the most important parts of a film... I just wish Hollywood did to. Gay
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 15:05:09 GMT -5
lmao. Me too.
But I did some research, they did the Tarantino thing, adding other scores in the movie to make it work. And it did.
"Switch to KYPTOLITEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
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Post by kabong30 on Apr 17, 2010 15:05:59 GMT -5
"That's gay!" = That sucks, or that's stupid. "You're a f-ggot" = you're an a--hole, or douche. I have a pretty high level of contempt for these words as slang. I also dislike the use of the "N" word in any context. I will say that I am somewhat hypocritical because I think the word "retard" is OK as long as you're not talking to or about someone who is mentally handicapped, but I also acknowledge that it's probably just as bad. Eh, ya know what? Just forget I said anything. Here ya go:
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 15:13:10 GMT -5
You cant change it. So I wouldnt even try. It's just how it is.
You also know the N word doesnt mean what it did right? White kids say it with black friends now.
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Post by latonthesnake on Apr 17, 2010 15:14:28 GMT -5
"That's gay!" = That sucks, or that's stupid. "You're a f-ggot" = you're an a--hole, or douche. I have a pretty high level of contempt for these words as slang. I also dislike the use of the "N" word in any context. I will say that I am somewhat hypocritical because I think the word "retard" is OK as long as you're not talking to or about someone who is mentally handicapped, but I also acknowledge that it's probably just as bad. Eh, ya know what? Just forget I said anything. Here ya go: Look I think the word gay is completely and utterly okay to use, largely because it doesn't necessarily mean the gay community, what most people are making fun of is the tacky Liberace foppish gaudy snap snap snap I'm a b-tch-diva gay. This person is a joke, even in the homosexual community (remember I live in Seattle). The word was first procured from from everyone else by the homosexual community, and then sort of morphed into a playful slang term used by everyone to poke fun of a "caricature" my wife works in the beauty industry, and whenever I go visit her I hear crap loads of homosexual men exclaiming that somethings just so "gay". as long as it's not wielded with real malice towards an entire group, it's no worse than saying someone's being a b-tch, or a little girl, or a retard, so on and so on. So please stop being so god damn sensitive... it's gay!
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Post by kabong30 on Apr 17, 2010 15:15:19 GMT -5
You cant change it. So I wouldnt even try. It's just how it is. You also know the N word doesnt mean what it did right? White kids say it with black friends now. \ Yes, yes it does. It's just that kids are to freaking stupid to understand that their words carry meaning. Hence, the rise of TXT-speak.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 15:20:33 GMT -5
Well, not true. Words have now changed. Gay used to mean happy, then it ment homosexual, now it means stupid. So everyone is stupid.
Words can easily change. Sick doesnt mean "i'm sick" it could me "Ew gross" or now "Awesome!"
Dont get offended by words...life will be easier for ya.
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Post by optronix on Apr 17, 2010 15:28:21 GMT -5
^^Words still retain there meanings they just get additional meanings. Its all how you say it and where you use it. The whole "N" world thing is a bunch of BS. Sure we used it in a derogatory fashion and still do, but the actual word came from Spanish, negro is the word for the color black. What annoys me is how we made this into a horrible term which now the black community uses for each other.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 15:36:28 GMT -5
My nigga means my friend. White kids use it RIGHT IN FRONT OF BLACK KIDS....TO BLACK KIDS. It's friendly to them.
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Post by latonthesnake on Apr 17, 2010 15:40:13 GMT -5
Well, not true. Words have now changed. Gay used to mean happy, then it ment homosexual, now it means stupid. So everyone is stupid. Words can easily change. Sick doesnt mean "i'm sick" it could me "Ew gross" or now "Awesome!" Dont get offended by words...life will be easier for ya. I also have to disagree with you here, the connotations of emasculation or negative effeminate assessment are still there. But it's weird they've almost mutated into a sort of anti-feminine jab, as opposed to having anything to do with sexual preference. Saying someone or something is gay, tends to be tantamount to implying that they are being like a woman, or a little girl and that is a negative thing. Regardless of whether or not the man has sex with a man or a woman, it is considered terribly negative for him to act in any way effeminate. If anything women should probably be offended by this sort of mentality more than the gay community. But even amongst the young, the term doesn't just mean "that's bad".
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Post by kabong30 on Apr 17, 2010 15:52:50 GMT -5
Clearly, I have lost the pulse of todays cool kids. Come on down to Oak Cliff here in DFW and start saying "My Nigga" and see how that goes. It's just as easy to communicate with out those words, and in fact makes you look a whole shit-ton smarter in my estimation. I clearly don't "get" the need to for some people to try to sound ignorant either.
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Post by kabong30 on Apr 17, 2010 15:58:45 GMT -5
Look I think the word gay is completely and utterly okay to use, largely because it doesn't necessarily mean the gay community, what most people are making fun of is the tacky Liberace foppish gaudy snap snap snap I'm a b-tch-diva gay. This person is a joke, even in the homosexual community (remember I live in Seattle). The word was first procured from from everyone else by the homosexual community, and then sort of morphed into a playful slang term used by everyone to poke fun of a "caricature" my wife works in the beauty industry, and whenever I go visit her I hear crap loads of homosexual men exclaiming that somethings just so "gay". as long as it's not wielded with real malice towards an entire group, it's no worse than saying someone's being a b-tch, or a little girl, or a retard, so on and so on. So please stop being so god damn sensitive... it's gay! I suppose I can live with the word gay, it's more the word "fag" or "faggot" that I have problems with. It's hateful. Plus, the frequency with which it comes up on Xbox Live boils my fucking blood. And I'll tell you, part of the reasoning behind my hypersensitivity to it is that I tend to spend a lot of time around "the gays" and so when somebody busts out with "Fag" and I see their reaction to it, it hurts me too. And then I want to punch things.
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Post by tenbrouck on Apr 17, 2010 16:00:08 GMT -5
Well, not true. Words have now changed. Gay used to mean happy, then it ment homosexual, now it means stupid. So everyone is stupid. Words can easily change. Sick doesnt mean "i'm sick" it could me "Ew gross" or now "Awesome!" Dont get offended by words...life will be easier for ya. I also have to disagree with you here, the connotations of emasculation or negative effeminate assessment are still there. But it's weird they've almost mutated into a sort of anti-feminine jab, as opposed to having anything to do with sexual preference. Saying someone or something is gay, tends to be tantamount to implying that they are being like a woman, or a little girl and that is a negative thing. Regardless of whether or not the man has sex with a man or a woman, it is considered terribly negative for him to act in any way effeminate. If anything women should probably be offended by this sort of mentality more than the gay community. But even amongst the young, the term doesn't just mean "that's bad". BINGO! Being "gay" infers being an inadequate male. It's juvenile and reeks of being uneducated. But hey, let's market it to the masses AND MAKE THEM STUPID.
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Post by latonthesnake on Apr 17, 2010 16:05:12 GMT -5
"faggot" on the other hand, I think we can do away with, that word is almost never used with a sense of irony, or imbued with a playful jab at femininity, it is always wielded as a harmful and demeaning remark, with the full intention of impugning whoever it's hurled at... and the people who use it regularly usually don't have the intellect to hurl anything sharper then the verbal equivalent of a dull stone.
It really does suck that every great term for the truly disproportionately stupid in our society is almost completely lost on them, because of a poor vocabulary, and low comprehension skills.
I told this guy that he was an insipid inane tedious detriment to society... and he fucking thanked me.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 16:09:26 GMT -5
Gay means stupid, dumb, or lame now. I'm in high school. I should know.
It does not just mean effeminine.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 16:10:53 GMT -5
I also have to disagree with you here, the connotations of emasculation or negative effeminate assessment are still there. But it's weird they've almost mutated into a sort of anti-feminine jab, as opposed to having anything to do with sexual preference. Saying someone or something is gay, tends to be tantamount to implying that they are being like a woman, or a little girl and that is a negative thing. Regardless of whether or not the man has sex with a man or a woman, it is considered terribly negative for him to act in any way effeminate. If anything women should probably be offended by this sort of mentality more than the gay community. But even amongst the young, the term doesn't just mean "that's bad". BINGO! Being "gay" infers being an inadequate male. It's juvenile and reeks of being uneducated. But hey, let's market it to the masses AND MAKE THEM STUPID. It's already a slang word kids use. KIDS AGES 8-20....it's been around since early 2000. Why are you guys JUST finding out about this?
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Post by latonthesnake on Apr 17, 2010 16:12:37 GMT -5
Gay means stupid, dumb, or lame now. I'm in high school. I should know. It does not just mean effeminine. No your in high school, there are a whole bunch of sharp knives in the drawer, some of them might give you tetanus, others could take off a finger, anyway you look at it if you stick your hand in its coming back mangled... but right now you sir, you are a sp00n.
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Post by kabong30 on Apr 17, 2010 16:15:09 GMT -5
I told this guy that he was an insipid inane tedious detriment to society... and he fu-king thanked me.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 16:15:26 GMT -5
A what? No, its everywhere. Do you watch South Park? Do you talk to teenagers? Have you seen Gamer? Gay means stupid, or lame, or dumb. That's a fact. I've had this silly debate before. I'll even pull up a definintion of the word now.... www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gay3. often used to describe something stupid or unfortunate. originating from homophobia. quite preferable among many teenage males in order to buff up their "masculinity" "Man, these seats are gay. I can't even see what's going on!"
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Post by kabong30 on Apr 17, 2010 16:17:57 GMT -5
It does not just mean effeminine. Effeminate Also, nobody is "just finding out about it" but that doesn't change the fact that it's stupid. There are people out there that get holes drilled in their heads, and it's been happening for thousands of years, doesn't mean I'm gonna start accepting it as normal.
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Post by kabong30 on Apr 17, 2010 16:19:24 GMT -5
A what? No, its everywhere. Do you watch South Park? Do you talk to teenagers? Have you seen Gamer? Gay means stupid, or lame, or dumb. That's a fact. I've had this silly debate before. I'll even pull up a definintion of the word now.... www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gay3. often used to describe something stupid or unfortunate. originating from homophobia. quite preferable among many teenage males in order to buff up their "masculinity" "Man, these seats are gay. I can't even see what's going on!" The fact that you used Urban Dictionary as an authoritative source for your position speaks fucking volumes.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 16:22:49 GMT -5
Eh, i'm still hungover. Deal with my gay spelling. (hehe)
There is nothing you can do about it. There's a billion horribly stupid phrases that have been used over the many, many years of human life. This is no different. Just suck it up, and deal with it. It's not going to just go away. It might fizzle, until some new offensive word takes it's place....
You dont have to accept it....but you're going to have to deal with it. I've made it my duty to NOT get offended by words, because I find that whole concept just silly. They're just words. They can ONLY harm you if you let them.
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 16:25:00 GMT -5
A what? No, its everywhere. Do you watch South Park? Do you talk to teenagers? Have you seen Gamer? Gay means stupid, or lame, or dumb. That's a fact. I've had this silly debate before. I'll even pull up a definintion of the word now.... www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gay3. often used to describe something stupid or unfortunate. originating from homophobia. quite preferable among many teenage males in order to buff up their "masculinity" "Man, these seats are gay. I can't even see what's going on!" The fact that you used Urban Dictionary as an authoritative source for your position speaks fu-king volumes. Um....that's the whole point. Why the fuck would a urban slang word be in a dictionary? Or fuck it, just go on X-Box live, and listen to all the teenagers scream "OH FUCK! Dude! I was killed! How FUCKING GAY!!" or..."YOU KILLED ME YOU FUCKING FAG!" Both those words mean, in the context they were used- How stupid you killed me! and You killed me you asshole!
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Post by CelticPredator on Apr 17, 2010 16:29:41 GMT -5
Sure. But i'm telling you what it means. It means bad, or stupid. Here's the wiki artical. Says the same thing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GayGay now, to the kids of America mean stupid, lame or bad.
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