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Post by S. Griffin on Jun 11, 2018 0:58:59 GMT -5
If Boba's just a clone of Jango (which I still fucking hate) wouldn't he look and sound just like Jango like all the other clones did though? To sound and look exactly the same, he would have to be conditioned the same way as the other clones or have the same life experiences as Jango, and it's pretty safe to say that he did not. Our accents are formed primarily by those who teach us to speak and the people we hear speaking. In order for Boba Fett to have the very same accent as Jango, he would have to have been taught to speak by the same people (Jango taught him, so that's one for Kiwi) but also spend time with the same people as he grew older, and we know that Boba did not spend all his time with the exact same people in the exact same places as Jango as he grew into adulthood. Here's a relevant example: Lauren Cohan was raised by an English mother and an American Father in Cherry Hill New Jersey, where she was born, until she was 13 years old. At the age of 13, it is pretty much a given (she's also said this in interviews) that she sounded pretty much like every kid in Cherry Hill. However, at the age of 13, her mother remarried and Lauren moved to England with her mother and stepfather, and she spent almost ten solid years there. Anyone who's seen Rise of Taj or Season 4 of Chuck or Talking Dead knows that Lauren lost her New Jersey accent and gained an English accent because she had been living in England surrounded by the English. Interestingly, as Lauren has been working so much in the United States, particularly Georgia, and has been playing Maggie on The Walking Dead over the years, she's actually gotten a bit more American-ness (but not New Jersey) to her speaking patterns. There are some differences, perhaps more noticeable to some than others, when comparing early interviews with Lauren to more recent ones. Life experience also plays a huge part in the sound of our voice. If Boba got hit in the neck a lot, spent significant amount of time in smoggy or polluted cites/planets/ships, or smoked death sticks and Jango didn't (or vice versa), his voice itself would sound very different. As far as how he looks, I don't care, because he should never ever be seen without that helmet as far as I'm concerned, but I'm sure I don't have to tell you how life experience can affect one's appearance. Sun or lack thereof, health, injuries, etc could all significantly affect Boba's appearance and result in him looking different from, although likely still recognizably similar to, Jango.
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Post by okcomputer on Jun 11, 2018 8:30:49 GMT -5
I'm not too bothered by the in-universe implications of Boba and Jango (and all the other clones) having the exact same voice. Jango raised him until he was 10 so it makes sense for them to share an accent, but this is Star Wars. Accents never make sense in these movies. Leia has a slight British accent in parts of ANH, but after a while it's gone completely. All the Imperials have British accents, but not Vader or the stormtroopers. Even characters that grew up on the same planet can have different accents (Han and Qi'ra spent their first 20 years on Corellia, but only Qi'ra has a British accent).
The thing that bugs me about Boba's voice is the real-world reasons for the change. Lucas ostensibly made the change to draw a line between the two trilogies, which was unnecessary because the line was drawn with the inclusion of Jango. Jango and Boba wear the same cool armor and fly the same cool ship, which is really all the connection they needed. Losing Boba's gravelly voice was just a needless result of the endless tinkering. But I still say ESB is the OT movie with the least-intrusive changes from the VHS days. And ever since Lucas went back and tinkered some more and took out the awful "Palpatine death scene" scream was Luke's fall through Cloud City, ESB is the only OT movie I can watch without some stupid "improvement" yanking me out of the movie.
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Post by AgentFox5 on Jun 11, 2018 15:19:40 GMT -5
I think a good idea for a Boba Fett movie is to have him escape the Sarlacc pit, but die in the desert due to the combination of his injuries and dehydration. Then someone comes along and takes his armor and assumes the mantle of Boba Fett (that way they can cast whoever they want). Only problem is the Hutts are plenty pissed about Jabba's death, so when they hear that Boba Fett is "alive" and well, they send guys after him to find out what happened.
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Post by okcomputer on Jun 11, 2018 15:45:31 GMT -5
I still think a Boba Fett movie is a bad idea, but treating him like a "Dread Pirate Roberts" type character is a cool idea.
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Post by frinspar on Jun 11, 2018 16:00:44 GMT -5
"I ham da dwead piwate boba fehhhhhhhhhhhtt!"
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Post by NecroDragon on Jun 14, 2018 17:51:13 GMT -5
If Boba's just a clone of Jango (which I still fucking hate) wouldn't he look and sound just like Jango like all the other clones did though? Yes, but he could have a different accent. I'll concede that Boba's voice should have stayed, but when I said I liked Kiwi Fett, I was talking about Jango.
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Post by S. Griffin on Jun 14, 2018 19:48:08 GMT -5
I still think a Boba Fett movie is a bad idea, but treating him like a "Dread Pirate Roberts" type character is a cool idea. It's pretty much the only way to not fuck up the character any further.
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Post by okcomputer on Jun 21, 2018 9:30:59 GMT -5
The news this week/year is a nightmare of pain and cruelty, so here's a fun and suuuuuuper nerdy video about aerodynamics of the spaceships in Star Wars.
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 12, 2019 12:23:10 GMT -5
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Post by solominicknight on Apr 12, 2019 12:58:47 GMT -5
The Senate lives!!!
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 12, 2019 13:58:57 GMT -5
I watched the livestream of the panel where they showed the trailer, and after it ended Ian McDiarmid was on stage and says "Roll it again" in his Palpatine voice. So I guess Palpatine is in this in one form or another, which is awesome and hopefully why Rian Johnson killed Snoke in TLJ. And the video quality of the livestream wasn't that good so I thought Rey & Co were looking at a mountain, it wasn't until I watched the HD version that I realized THAT'S THE FUCKING DEATH STAR WRECKAGE! Hopefully it's the first one, which would mean they're all on Yavin IV looking for some ancient Sith temple or something. I fucking love Star Wars.
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Post by ravenmaniac on Apr 12, 2019 15:22:46 GMT -5
What does Rey have in her hand at the end of the Death Star wreckage scene?
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 12, 2019 15:40:28 GMT -5
It looks like Willrow Hood's ice cream maker. But the big question is, which Death Star was that? Now that we know Palpatine is part of the plot somehow it would make sense for them to be on Yavin with all the ancient Sith temples, but Endor would also make sense if some of his "Dark Side essence" or whatever is still in the place where he died. Whichever one it is, it's an awesome visual and JJ Abrams clearly loves shooting old wrecked Imperial stuff.
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Post by S. Griffin on Apr 12, 2019 16:53:57 GMT -5
Thoughts about the new trailer: -JJ seems to be undoing things that Rian Johnson did, like having Kylo Ren fix his helmet, which is dumb for several reasons, not the least of which is that Adam Driver is a great actor who should not be hidden behind a mask. -I'm not going to speculate which Skywalker the title is referring to (Rey), but I'm glad that he seems to be back on the whole "the force belongs to the Skywalker family" thing because that's not a completely stupid idea. [sarcasm] -Rey running and doing a backflip onto an X-Wing looks dumb as fuck and extraordinarily dangerous. I hope that's just something in the trailer to get fanbois to cream their jeans and is not in the actual movie. So stupid. -I refuse to accept that Lando Calrissian would wear an outfit similar to one he wore forty years earlier. I do, however, like that he appears to be wearing a jacket draped around his shoulders and not necessarily an actual cape. BECAUSE THAT'S HOW A GUY WHO LOVES CAPES WOULD WEAR A JACKET!
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 12, 2019 17:43:19 GMT -5
I’m also not crazy about Lando wearing the same outfit he wore in Solo. But it’s so good seeing Billy Dee again that I’ll let it slide.
And I thought Rey’s flip over Kylo’s TIE was super cool. The slow-mo is a bit much, but still a cool moment. It reminds me of Luke taking out the speeder bike with his saber.
But the title... I LOVE THE TITLE. It’s a great name for the final chapter of the saga. It’s pulpy, a little vague, and thematically perfect. I also liked “The Will of the Force” that was rumored, but this is better. (And no, I don’t think Rey is the titular Skywalker)
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Post by S. Griffin on Apr 12, 2019 19:46:29 GMT -5
I thought it was an X-Wing, but I watched it on my phone, so...yeah. Less stupid. She really shouldn't be running with her lightsaber ignited when it doesn't have to be. It's like running with scissors. It's not cool, it just looks reckless. it's a less striking visual if it's not ignited, but I think it would be pretty badass if she didn't ignite it until she's over the Tie...or under it. Also Luke stood his ground and faced the speeder bike, deflected several laser bolts, and then cut the front off that shit like a boss. He barely moved. If you don't think Rey is the titular Skywalker, who do you think it is? Luke is dead. Leia is effectively dead. Kylo is a Solo, and while also a technically a Skywalker, it's not his name and to give him that name in some kind of redemption arc or something would be pretty insulting to the father that he murdered.
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 12, 2019 22:07:53 GMT -5
I think the title is referring to Luke, because nobody’s ever really gone.
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Post by frinspar on Apr 13, 2019 13:53:28 GMT -5
They're bringing midicholorians back and Rey's gonna shoot out force babies like an alien queen.
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Post by GhostRider5289 on Apr 13, 2019 14:35:34 GMT -5
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Post by S. Griffin on Apr 13, 2019 19:01:07 GMT -5
CAMERON FUCKING MONAGHAN Also, is it forbidden now to make anything Star Wars that happens before Episode I or after Episode IX?
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Post by GhostRider5289 on Apr 13, 2019 22:25:06 GMT -5
I thought that guy looked familiar. Guess I'm not used to him looking normal after seeing him as Joker on Gotham for so long. Regardless I can't say I'm interested but I figured the SW fans here might be.
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Post by AgentFox5 on Apr 14, 2019 23:19:56 GMT -5
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Post by frinspar on Apr 15, 2019 11:25:19 GMT -5
That might be fun. It has a definite cheese factor, but that's SW.
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 15, 2019 12:07:35 GMT -5
Man I hope that Fallen Order game doesn't suck. There hasn't been a really good story-driven single player Star Wars game in forever.
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Post by GhostRider5289 on Apr 15, 2019 17:32:50 GMT -5
I'm still pissed that there's never going to be an ending to Force Unleashed.
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Post by okcomputer on Apr 16, 2019 10:04:13 GMT -5
I'm still pissed that there's never going to be an ending to Force Unleashed. Did the second one end on a cliffhanger? I only played it once and wasn't a big fan. All I remember about the story from those games was how much I hated the way they retconned the origins of the Rebellion into basically Vader's plan to overthrow the Emperor.
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Post by S. Griffin on Apr 16, 2019 11:07:38 GMT -5
I'm still pissed that there's never going to be an ending to Force Unleashed. This looks kinda similar. Just pretend that's Starkiller.
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Post by GhostRider5289 on Apr 16, 2019 11:42:19 GMT -5
I'm still pissed that there's never going to be an ending to Force Unleashed. Did the second one end on a cliffhanger? I only played it once and wasn't a big fan. All I remember about the story from those games was how much I hated the way they retconned the origins of the Rebellion into basically Vader's plan to overthrow the Emperor. In a major way. In the canon ending Starkiller beats Vader and he's captured by the Rebels. After a pretty tense conversation between the two the ship they're on jumps to lightspeed and Boba Fett follows them. Cut to credits. THE FUCK MAN! Those are some of my favorite games and I'll never get to see the story's end. I'm still pissed that there's never going to be an ending to Force Unleashed. This looks kinda similar. Just pretend that's Starkiller. Glad I'm not the only one who though so. If it looks like it'll play similar then I may give it a shot.
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Post by NecroDragon on Apr 23, 2019 1:01:20 GMT -5
The title is referring to Finn, who is a secret love child of Leia and Lando.
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Post by S. Griffin on Apr 23, 2019 19:50:42 GMT -5
The title is referring to Finn, who is a secret love child of Leia and Lando. Finn would be one light-ass motherfucker if that were the case.
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